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Tuesday, 24 May 2011

The Doyles of Ballypierce and Kildavin, and the Redmonds of Clonegal

Margaret Doyle with Ivy Curran and her two sons Andrew and Martin c1952                                                                                                  Margaret c1920

Staying on the Curran side, ever so slightly, I now move onto the Doyle’s of Ballypierce and Kildavin. My Grandfather, Martin Curran’s second wife was Margaret Doyle, born in Ballypierce, county Carlow in 1880, she was born to farming stock (like my grandfather). Her mother and father were Peter Doyle and Mary Redmond, Peter was from Kildavin around about 1833, and Mary was from Clonegal, two very local places to Ballypierce. Peter was the original Doyle to move to Ballypierce. His father and mother were Thomas Doyle and Anne Willis, both born around 1805. Margaret Doyle GM had quite the number of sibling too:

Name
DOB
DOD
Margaret
1880
1977, Beaumont, Dublin
Mary
1868 (all born in Ballypierce)
1958, Hollywood, Dublin
Catherine(Katie)
1865
1893, Ballypierce?
Anne
1863
Abt 1908
Thomas
1872
1916, Campile, Wexford
Bridget
1885
1902, Dublin?
Patrick
1875
1953, Knocknacree, Kildare
Sarah
1870
1956 Ballypierce
Johanna(Josie)
1882
1967, Sherwood, Carlow
James
1877
1964, Bunclody, Carlow


Firstly we will start with my Grandmother, Margaret. The first major event for Margaret that I can see was the passing away of her mother, Mary in 1887, when Margaret was just seven years of age, there were adult members in her siblings, and I am not to clear what happened, but I do know that Margaret and her younger siblings went to live with their grandmother, Anne Willis, though she only lived until 1891, leaving Margaret at the tender age of eleven. Being from farming stock, Margaret and her siblings would definitely have mucked in on the farm, with their dad, peter. By the time Margaret reached her late teens, she had moved up to Dublin with her sister Bridget, I have been told that they done mainly domestic work, and that Margaret described these days later as being very hard to deal with. I know for a fact that prior to her meeting my Grandfather, Martin Curran, a Dublin policeman, she lived in the east wall area of Dublin with a family called the Spellman’s. Apparently she stayed well in touch with them for long after, and even named one of her sons after Alfred Spellman. Eventually she got a job as a nanny, looking after the children of Martin Curran, his wife had passed away in 1903, and they obviously developed a relationship, and later married in 1908. Margaret had five children, which you can read all about in another blog about my father’s siblings. Margaret lived to the ripe old age of 97.
Bridget Doyle was only 17 when she died, but I did hear a couple of details about her, as I said before she moved up to Dublin when she was in her mid teens, with my grandmother, unfortunately, whilst in Dublin, she became very ill, my aunt Kathleen told me that she may have had flu, though Nanny Ireland (the name I knew Margaret by) said that she had terrible pains in her head, and that it was thought initially that she may have had meningitis. She passed away at the tender age of 17.
                               Margaret(right) with Mary Hosey(mid) and Mary Weldon(left)

Next up is  Mary, twelve years senior of Nanny Ireland, also moved up to Dublin, maybe around the same time as Margaret too, she married John Weldon about 1904, and they went on to have many descendants, some of whom still live around the family home in Hollywoodrath in north county Dublin. Mary passed away in 1958, and kept in touch with my grandmother, they are now buried together in Mulhuddart cemetery, north Dublin.
                                                          Anne Doyle and James Foley
Anne Doyle married James Foley, but unfortunately they had no children and Anne passed away at the age of 41, only three years after her marriage to James. They lived in his family home in Cranemore, just outside of Kildavin.
Thomas Doyle, married Mary Grennan, and they moved to Campile, Wexford. They married in 1907 and had seven children, of which there are descendants. After seven years of marriage, and seven children, Patrick passed away when his youngest child was only two months old.

Margaret, Sarah and Patrick Doyle
Patrick Doyle married Mary Hosey from ballyhade county Kildare, they moved into Knocknacree, near Castledermot, county Kildare. Patrick and Mary had six children, who in turn had many descendants. Patrick passed away in the 1950’s age 78. Incidentally, I made contact with one of Patricks descendants, a gentleman named Michael, who really passed on a pile of information to me, and I likewise to him.
                                                      Thomas Murphy and Sarah Doyle
Sarah Doyle married Thomas Murphy, but the marriage didn’t produce any children. There has been alot of speculation about this marriage, and to be honest, I don’t want to write it here in case I get into trouble. Anyway, they married in 1910, and lived in the Doyle family home in Ballypierce, Thomas at one point tried to make a new start in Canada, but it didn’t work out, and they finished their days in Ballypierce. Sarah passed away in 1956 age 85.
Group of Doyle sisters, my dad is the child, with his mum, margaret, Joannah Doyle with the hat,             I don't know who the middle one is, and then you have Mary Doyle and Mary Hosey
Johanna Doyle was the last of the Doyle children to leave home, she married Patrick Redmond and they moved into a place up in Sherwood, just outside Clonegal(only down the road), not much is known about her, accept that they had two children, but as yet, no known descendants. Johanna lived until she was 85, in Sherwood.
James Doyle married Mary Dixon in 1926, from Aughrim county Wicklow, they lived in Bunclody, no more than a stone’s throw from Ballypierce too. And had four children of which there are descendants. James passed away aged 87 in the 1960’s.
The last one is Catherine, whom I know the least, all I know is that she died aged 28 from tuberculosis, and we don’t think she was married.
As I say in every blog I do, if you can add any flesh to these bones, I would love to hear from you. Particularly little stories about them.
Stepping back another generation with the Doyle’s, my GGF, Peter Doyle was born in the Kilns in Kildavin, and I know a few of his siblings too:

Name
DOB
DOD
Peter
1833, all Kildavin
1919, Ballypierce
Sarah
1836

Catherine
1838

John
1843

Margaret
18??



I can only speak of two individuals in this table, that’s the two men. I found the girls on parish records, and that is all I know. Peter I have told you all about, and then John. John as far as I know lived and died in Kildavin or locality, he was married to Brigid Breen possibly in the late 1860’s, and they had six children as far as I know, which have many descendants. I have been in contact with a lady in Australia, who is a direct descendant of John, and alot of info was exchanged.
Going back again, my GGGF Thomas Doyle and Anne Willis lived in the Kilns in Kildavin village, I think that Anne was originally from Ballypierce, I have been told that Thomas was born in the Kilns too, but I am not so sure personally. The Willis’s were a protestant family in the area at the time, so did Anne convert to RC to marry Thomas? There is a Church of Ireland graveyard in Kildavin, as well as two RC ones, and a fair fraction of the names in there are Willis’s. I know little else about them.
As I said before, my GGF Peter Doyle was married to Mary Redmond, I can step back a generation with her too, Her mother and father were James Redmond and Catherine Kenny, James born Abt 1793 and died 1877, they lived in the Clonegal area. They had alot of children too.

Name
DOB
DOD
Mary Redmond
1842 all clonegal
1887 Ballypierce
Anne(Annie) Redmond
1858

Bridget Redmond
1841

Timothy Redmond
1847

Margaret Redmond
1849

James Redmond
1851

Catherine Redmond
1853

John Redmond
1855

Julia Redmond
1861



Of these, I know Timothy married a lady called Catherine from County Carlow, and they had two children. James married a lady called Kate and they had three children and they lived in Ballyredmond, county Carlow, and finally Catherine married a man called Richard Abraham and they had five children, and possibly lived in Boley.

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